A Wednesday post on Threads.
“What would you do if a white woman touched your braids as a Black woman and then hit your arm and said “why did you tell me about Black people braiding rice in their hair during slavery?”
Asking for myself because yes this happened to me and I’m traumatized.” @wildgena
*edit – “why DIDN’T you tell me about…”(but I’m sure you get the idea / revision) and thank you everyone for coming to me about this and made me feel seen and understood because PHEW.
These comments are word for word. I’ve changed the other commenters’ names.
directed to @wildgena “I have a genuine question. Why would you braid rice in your hair? Or was that a misunderstanding?” @tolo
“Google this.” @laura.rftm
“Takes 10 seconds to type and inform someone instead of telling them to google something. Cmon.” @thehannah
“We need to get better about doing our own work instead of asking Black women to teach us. I’m directing to the resource.” @laura.rftm
“Are you black??? You’re the one that answered lady! I’m asking you!!!” @thehannah
“I am not Black. I answered you with I am pointing them in the direction of where they can find the answer so next time they can try that first.” @laura.rftm
“Ok lady” @thehannah
First, some notes. I do not engage with people on the internet without at least an idea of who they say they are.
@tolo’s page has Liberalism is a disease splashed across the top along with a profile photo of a mocked up “liberal suppository” to provide antipsychotic relief for — and I can’t make this us — Trump Derangement Syndrome. We can reasonably argue their question wasn’t posed in good faith, but this conversation is more about what follows.
@thehannah’s profile photo is of a white woman with her dog. There’s no bio but her replies and reposts suggest she’s following several of the same Black women I follow. Basically we’re in the white women trying to be allies club.
Alrighty.
Hannah had big feelings about me telling someone to search google. Her first response was snarky, the second was agitated, and she ended with dismissive.
As someone who’s in the same spaces I am I KNOW she’s seen the “don’t demand labor from Black women” conversation repeated ad nauseum. Maybe she felt like it’s our job to step in and provide that labor, but that’s just a guess.
Here’s the thing.
I’m a retired teacher. One thing any teacher worth their salt isn’t gonna do is shove answers in your face.
Crap. To be fair, that’s not necessarily true when you’re sick or pulled in four directions or late taking the class to lunch. Sometimes you do just give the answer and keep it moving to fight another day.
But when a learning opportunity arises every decent teacher I ever had helped me understand how to find an answer I needed. Librarians, too. As a whole we are a “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.” sort of people.
So partly, yes, I said google because @wildgena had not offered up this space to answer questions. But also there is a whole world of information at our fingertips. Let’s encourage one another to practice fishing.
Thank you for helping me understand a little more. A few years ago, I asked a black woman in a small community group what she wanted or how we could help (be better allies.) I was taken aback by her response that it’s not her job to explain that. Black people shouldn’t have to explain these things to white people. I had been taught that being specific in asking for what you want is an assertiveness technique. As I type this, I look at that work, “asking.” I can understand being tired of asking over and over again or even saying…. It’s worth trying to figure out.
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Thank you for sharing, JoAnna! Receiving blunt feedback has been a learning curve for me. I used to attach all sorts of weight to it — like in your example I’d spiral with she thinks I’m entitled, I really screwed up, I can’t even ally right…a lot of my own judgy thoughts that come from fear of conflict and the whole “one right way” perspective. Honestly sometimes I still bang up against my initial reaction to messing up and have to talk myself down.
I learn a lot from @portia.noir (on Threads, tiktok, or instagram). On her Patreon she talked about how to seek clarity without demanding labor and how to know when it’s better to sit in our confusion and find other solutions. There’s so much information available to us now, we just need to find ways to access it.
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I can relate. Damn those judgy thoughts and fears of conflict! Thanks for the referral. 🙂
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Yep, I get what you’re saying. People are wigging out more & more every day. Case in point, I guess.
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It was a pretty big response. I did post I didn’t understand why this was upsetting her so much but she’d tapped out. I shouldn’t be surprised, people have been crashing out in comments all over the place.
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I get every word of this and completely agree for a variety of reasons
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It was interesting to see. I’m terrible at guessing ages but she did appear younger in her photo — maybe late 20s? early 30s? — and that okay lady gave off an okay boomer vibe. Trying to hold grace over here bc of that whole life is life-ing thing.
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